So sorry to the host here, but I just seen that they are discontinuing the Bock and Duppelbock kits…now, I realize that you can just select the ingredients individually, and all is well… but wtf? I am getting some strange vibes here, after dumping the flat rate shipping and idiotic new catalog format… trashing the Bock after it has been around for over 500 years? Hows about they throw over the petals and rose hips first???
Is this a trend in homebrewing, or am I just getting hysterical?
I don’t get what you’re saying…what’s wrong with discounting bocks and doppelbocks?
discontinuing. They are no longer offering the kits; as stated, you can put the items together, individually, to make the batch. Even if it were a slow selling kit though, it isn’t like the grains are pre-packaged and sitting around forever, right?
Unfortunately lagers are a bit out of fashion among the craft brew community in this country, as are malt-forward beers. Dunkels and bocks are becoming harder and harder to find.
I hear ya; alot of new beers to hit the shelves seem to be over-the-top and hopped to kill!
RE: Wahoo’s comment. Lagers are not out of fashion with me. Nor are malt forward beers. Many people I speak to are getting burnt out on the over abundance of hop bomb ales.
That being said, one of the greatest things about the homebrew community is that we are creative types, who do things the way that WE want.
I’d look at this as an opportunity for you to design your own bock recipe.
Buy some software (BeerTools Pro is a great one, and it’s only $20. and downloadable) and start putting the ingredients together yourself!
To be honest with you, I feel that designing my own recipes in the software is the most rewarding and funnest part of this hobby. Not to mention you can save some money, while making better beer! :cheers:
They’re also discontinuing the breakfast stout, bierre de garde, ipa, double ipa and ryan’s face puncher. Since there aren’t common ingredient in these, I suspect they’re removing non-sellers. Most have some overlap with newer recipes.
Jesus, reading comprehension was never my strong suit.
Seems odd they are discontinuing it, but like someone else said, perhaps they’re just not selling. It’s a shame. Don’t know if I believe that hoppier beers are taking over though. Yes, they’re very popular, but people still brew the imperial stouts, pumpkin ales, holiday beers, and the like.
If you have noticed, a lot of these kits are getting their own specific names to set aside from others. My guess is that is what they are going towards these types of kits. Then they can sell more labels, etc.
I don’t know why you are getting so bent out of shape, with the large online community, and availability of individual ingredients, it is not hard to make a bock.
If you look at a few of the newer IPA’s, they’re reformatting recipes to account for less standard kettle additions (60, 30, 20, 15…so on) and have moved to large amounts of FWH , 20 or 10 and a large hop steep at the end, as well as, a lighter overall SRM grainbase. For example the kiwi express and cascade mountain kits.
I think they are just subtly shifting to more west coast based recipes.
I know this doesn’t answer the original questions on bocks, but it does address why they’ve discounted or stopped carrying kits such as their base IPA and the Face-Puncher…possibly those recipes are a bit out of style in the current environment.
Dang, I just brewed the Face Puncher
as long as they still list the recipe sheet, it’s no big deal for me. I’ve been trying to stock up on grains & hops for a wide variety of beer. whether the styles are out of style for you or not, they need to push what they sell & drop what they don’t. business isn’t always fun.
I’m sure they are looking at what is moving and what is sitting on the shelf, and cutting those that aren’t selling.
'Zactly. That’s what I use most of the time anyway because their kits are never 100% on the money, for my taste anyway.
