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Rye cascadian dark ale? What do you think?

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#1

So I was just thinking about doing an rye cda. looking at close to 20% rye between the rye and chocolate rye. I think it would work with the darker malts.

what are your thoughts? Here is my first workup of the recipe. Brewing a lower gravity version. So I know the OG doesn’t work.

falconers rye CDA
Cascadian Dark Ale

Recipe Specs

Batch Size (G): 5.5
Total Grain (lb): 10.750
Total Hops (oz): 6.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.053 (°P): 13.1
Final Gravity (FG): 1.013 (°P): 3.3
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.21 %
Colour (SRM): 30.3 (EBC): 59.7
Bitterness (IBU): 52.4 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 75
Boil Time (Minutes): 75

Grain Bill

7.500 lb Pale Ale Malt (69.77%)
1.500 lb Rye Malt (13.95%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.65%)
0.500 lb Chocolate Rye (4.65%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.49%)
0.375 lb Special-B (3.49%)

Hop Bill

0.75 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.1 oz/Gal)
1.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
1.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
1.25 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Aroma) (0.2 oz/Gal)
2.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 7 Days (Dry Hop) (0.4 oz/Gal)

Misc Bill

Single step Infusion at 149°F for 90 Minutes.
Fermented at 65°F with Safale US-05

#2

Interesting idea. I would up the rye if you want a distinct rye character. Also might consider ditching the special B in favor of a different crystal malt. Special B is pretty distinctive and it may be a little too “kitchen-sinky” with the rye and all those hops.

Let us know how it turns out.

#3

Dropped the pale ale ammount, upped the rye and chocolate rye ammount, and totally removed the crystal malt. Will help dry it out, and I still will have the color that I want with the additional chocolate malt.

Up to 25.88% rye malts.

falconers rye CDA
Cascadian Dark Ale

Recipe Specs

Batch Size (G): 5.5
Total Grain (lb): 10.625
Total Hops (oz): 6.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.052 (°P): 12.9
Final Gravity (FG): 1.013 (°P): 3.3
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.11 %
Colour (SRM): 30.6 (EBC): 60.3
Bitterness (IBU): 52.8 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 75
Boil Time (Minutes): 75

Grain Bill

7.000 lb Pale Ale Malt (65.88%)
2.000 lb Rye Malt (18.82%)
0.750 lb Chocolate Rye (7.06%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.71%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.53%)

Hop Bill

0.75 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.1 oz/Gal)
1.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
1.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
1.25 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Aroma) (0.2 oz/Gal)
2.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 7 Days (Dry Hop) (0.4 oz/Gal)

Misc Bill

Single step Infusion at 149°F for 90 Minutes.
Fermented at 65°F with Safale US-05

#4

Have you mashed with rye before? Don’t forget a couple pounds of rice hulls to help prevent a stuck mash.

#5

I have. And will. Just didn’t put that into brewmate.

#6

Looks really interesting. I’d drink that!
Let us know how it turns out

#7

Firestone Walker Wookey Jack is something along these lines. It’s great beer

http://www.firestonebeer.com/beers/prod ... pril-2012-

I’d bitter with something other than the Falconer’s Flight, since it’s a blend. I use Magnum a lot for its smoothness, but Columbus or Chinook might be a good kick in this beer.

#8

[quote=“muddywater_grant”]So I was just thinking about doing an rye cda. looking at close to 20% rye between the rye and chocolate rye. I think it would work with the darker malts.
7.500 lb Pale Ale Malt (69.77%)
1.500 lb Rye Malt (13.95%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.65%)
0.500 lb Chocolate Rye (4.65%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.49%)
0.375 lb Special-B (3.49%)
[/quote]

No crystal rye?

#9

[quote=“Rookie L A”][quote=“muddywater_grant”]So I was just thinking about doing an rye cda. looking at close to 20% rye between the rye and chocolate rye. I think it would work with the darker malts.
7.500 lb Pale Ale Malt (69.77%)
1.500 lb Rye Malt (13.95%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.65%)
0.500 lb Chocolate Rye (4.65%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.49%)
0.375 lb Special-B (3.49%)
[/quote]

No crystal rye?[/quote]

To tell you the truth, I didn’t know there was such a thing. Thanks.

#10

Looking pretty good. I would still up the rye a bit more if it was me, but we’re getting picky at this point. :slight_smile:

A little crystal something (crystal rye would be great if you can get it) wouldn’t be a bad idea. I just thought the special B specifically might be a bit much.

It’ll probably be good as you have it though.

#11

[quote=“muddywater_grant”][quote=“Rookie L A”][quote=“muddywater_grant”]So I was just thinking about doing an rye cda. looking at close to 20% rye between the rye and chocolate rye. I think it would work with the darker malts.
7.500 lb Pale Ale Malt (69.77%)
1.500 lb Rye Malt (13.95%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.65%)
0.500 lb Chocolate Rye (4.65%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.49%)
0.375 lb Special-B (3.49%)
[/quote]

No crystal rye?[/quote]

To tell you the truth, I didn’t know there was such a thing. Thanks.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure N B carries it.

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