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Rye cascadian dark ale? What do you think?

So I was just thinking about doing an rye cda. looking at close to 20% rye between the rye and chocolate rye. I think it would work with the darker malts.

what are your thoughts? Here is my first workup of the recipe. Brewing a lower gravity version. So I know the OG doesn’t work.

falconers rye CDA
Cascadian Dark Ale

Recipe Specs

Batch Size (G): 5.5
Total Grain (lb): 10.750
Total Hops (oz): 6.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.053 (°P): 13.1
Final Gravity (FG): 1.013 (°P): 3.3
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.21 %
Colour (SRM): 30.3 (EBC): 59.7
Bitterness (IBU): 52.4 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 75
Boil Time (Minutes): 75

Grain Bill

7.500 lb Pale Ale Malt (69.77%)
1.500 lb Rye Malt (13.95%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.65%)
0.500 lb Chocolate Rye (4.65%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.49%)
0.375 lb Special-B (3.49%)

Hop Bill

0.75 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.1 oz/Gal)
1.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
1.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
1.25 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Aroma) (0.2 oz/Gal)
2.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 7 Days (Dry Hop) (0.4 oz/Gal)

Misc Bill

Single step Infusion at 149°F for 90 Minutes.
Fermented at 65°F with Safale US-05

Interesting idea. I would up the rye if you want a distinct rye character. Also might consider ditching the special B in favor of a different crystal malt. Special B is pretty distinctive and it may be a little too “kitchen-sinky” with the rye and all those hops.

Let us know how it turns out.

Dropped the pale ale ammount, upped the rye and chocolate rye ammount, and totally removed the crystal malt. Will help dry it out, and I still will have the color that I want with the additional chocolate malt.

Up to 25.88% rye malts.

falconers rye CDA
Cascadian Dark Ale

Recipe Specs

Batch Size (G): 5.5
Total Grain (lb): 10.625
Total Hops (oz): 6.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.052 (°P): 12.9
Final Gravity (FG): 1.013 (°P): 3.3
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.11 %
Colour (SRM): 30.6 (EBC): 60.3
Bitterness (IBU): 52.8 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 75
Boil Time (Minutes): 75

Grain Bill

7.000 lb Pale Ale Malt (65.88%)
2.000 lb Rye Malt (18.82%)
0.750 lb Chocolate Rye (7.06%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.71%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.53%)

Hop Bill

0.75 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.1 oz/Gal)
1.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
1.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
1.25 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Aroma) (0.2 oz/Gal)
2.00 oz Falconers Flight Pellet (11.4% Alpha) @ 7 Days (Dry Hop) (0.4 oz/Gal)

Misc Bill

Single step Infusion at 149°F for 90 Minutes.
Fermented at 65°F with Safale US-05

Have you mashed with rye before? Don’t forget a couple pounds of rice hulls to help prevent a stuck mash.

I have. And will. Just didn’t put that into brewmate.

Looks really interesting. I’d drink that!
Let us know how it turns out

Firestone Walker Wookey Jack is something along these lines. It’s great beer

http://www.firestonebeer.com/beers/prod ... pril-2012-

I’d bitter with something other than the Falconer’s Flight, since it’s a blend. I use Magnum a lot for its smoothness, but Columbus or Chinook might be a good kick in this beer.

[quote=“muddywater_grant”]So I was just thinking about doing an rye cda. looking at close to 20% rye between the rye and chocolate rye. I think it would work with the darker malts.
7.500 lb Pale Ale Malt (69.77%)
1.500 lb Rye Malt (13.95%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.65%)
0.500 lb Chocolate Rye (4.65%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.49%)
0.375 lb Special-B (3.49%)
[/quote]

No crystal rye?

[quote=“Rookie L A”][quote=“muddywater_grant”]So I was just thinking about doing an rye cda. looking at close to 20% rye between the rye and chocolate rye. I think it would work with the darker malts.
7.500 lb Pale Ale Malt (69.77%)
1.500 lb Rye Malt (13.95%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.65%)
0.500 lb Chocolate Rye (4.65%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.49%)
0.375 lb Special-B (3.49%)
[/quote]

No crystal rye?[/quote]

To tell you the truth, I didn’t know there was such a thing. Thanks.

Looking pretty good. I would still up the rye a bit more if it was me, but we’re getting picky at this point. :slight_smile:

A little crystal something (crystal rye would be great if you can get it) wouldn’t be a bad idea. I just thought the special B specifically might be a bit much.

It’ll probably be good as you have it though.

[quote=“muddywater_grant”][quote=“Rookie L A”][quote=“muddywater_grant”]So I was just thinking about doing an rye cda. looking at close to 20% rye between the rye and chocolate rye. I think it would work with the darker malts.
7.500 lb Pale Ale Malt (69.77%)
1.500 lb Rye Malt (13.95%)
0.500 lb Carapils (Dextrine) (4.65%)
0.500 lb Chocolate Rye (4.65%)
0.375 lb Carafa III malt (3.49%)
0.375 lb Special-B (3.49%)
[/quote]

No crystal rye?[/quote]

To tell you the truth, I didn’t know there was such a thing. Thanks.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure N B carries it.

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