Black IPA/ Cascadian black ale recipe help

mr_h · November 14, 2011, 10:43pm

I am thinking of brew my first black IPA and would like some feed back especially on the hopping

Thanks in advance

Black IPA

Batch Size (L): 22.00
Total Grain (kg): 6.23
Anticipated OG: 1.060
Anticipated SRM: 28.9
Anticipated IBU: 70.2
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name

89.7 Pale Malt(2-row)
6.3 Crystal 75L
4.1 Carafa Special (II) will be added in the last 10min of mash

Hops

Amount Name Alpha IBU Boil Time

15.00 g. Centennial 0.50 8.1 First WH
20.00 g. Columbus 15.00 38.8 60 min.
15.00 g. Centennial 9.00 4.7 15 min.
15.00 g. Columbus 15.00 7.8 15 min.
15.00 g. Centennial 9.00 2.9 5 min.
20.00 g. Summit 14.00 4.5 1 min.
15.00 g. Centennial 10.50 3.4 1 min.

Dry hoping 20g each of Centennial/ Summit

shredd3r · November 15, 2011, 2:00am

Personally I like a lot more late addition hops. in my BIPA, I had 8 oz split between 1 minute and whirlpool

Also I’ve never used carafe II, my black IPAs look like: 90% 2 row, 5% carafa III, and 5%c60.

It was just dark enough for me, so maybe up the carafe II a little but to compensate?

Either way, it looks excellent!

bothfeet · November 15, 2011, 9:32pm

I agree with Shredders comment but also would add that for my IBA i use suger. That way you can cut back on the grain bill which gives a lighter body, more IPA’ish body. The only one i didnt add suger it turned into a highly hopped porter.

ipa · November 15, 2011, 10:11pm

Bothfeet, thanks for using IBA. Drives me nuts when people use Black and Pale in the title of a beer, it can’t be both.

Mr H, I usually use .75lb Carafa II in mine, and .25lb chocolate malt. I do a cold mash first to get the color, but not as much body and it turns out like a hoppy schwarzbier. I haven’t tried adding the dark grains at the end or cold mashing the dark grains separately. Here’s my thread that may help you out some.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=102681

mr_h · November 16, 2011, 8:30am

Thanks for the input guy’s i am going to add al ittl more lat additions

ipa that thread is very useful

robbop88 · November 30, 2011, 3:58am

This looks delicious. Personally, I like to use some kind of chocolate malt in my dark ales. Maybe a Pale Chocolate or Debittered. I agree that we want the color to be proper, but I always preferred the bitterness to come mostly from my hops so I don’t have to worry about an astringent flavor creeping in.

On another note, your hops choices are fairly traditional for a Cascadian Black Ale. This is not a bad thing, I actually love all those choices. However, consider changing it up next time and using other less traditional IPA hops. Check out this funky hop schedule (I’ll post a link to the full recipe underneath):

Hops (4.75 oz Total):

Bittering (1 oz):
0.25 oz Columbus 14.0-16.0% Leaf (60 Minutes)
0.25 oz Chinook 11.0-13.0% Leaf (60 Minutes)
0.25 oz Sorachi Ace 10.0-16.0% Leaf (70 Minutes)
0.25 oz Centennial 9.0-12.0% Leaf (70 Minutes)

Flavor (0.75 oz):
0.25 oz Cascade 4.5-7.0% Pellets (20 Minutes)
0.25 oz Cluster 5.5-8.0% Leaf (15 Minutes)
0.25 oz Cascade 4.5-7.0% Pellets (10 Minutes)

Aroma (1.5 oz):
0.5 oz Sorachi Ace 10.0-16.0% Leaf (5 Minutes)
0.5 oz UK Brambling Cross 5.0-7.0% Pellets (5 Minutes)
0.5 oz German Select 3.0-6.5% Pellets (0 Minutes)

Dry Hop (1.5 oz):
0.25 oz German Select 3.0-6.5% Pellets (Days 1-7)
0.25 oz UK Brambling Cross 5.0-7.0% Pellets (Days 1-7)
0.5 oz Cascade 10.0-16.0% Leaf (Days 8-14)
0.25 oz UK Brambling Cross 5.0-7.0% Pellets (Days 15-21)
0.25 oz Sorachi Ace 10.0-16.0% Leaf (Days 15-21)

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=106283

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

mr_h · December 7, 2011, 7:15am

Got a brew-day on Saturday and decided to brew a Black IPA

Sorry the measurements are in metric

Batch Size (L): 22.50
Total Grain (kg): 6.36
Anticipated OG: 1.068
Anticipated SRM: 29.0
Anticipated IBU: 74.6
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name

81.8 5.20 kg. Pale Malt(2-row)
7.9 0.50 kg. Munich Malt
6.3 0.40 kg. Crystal 75L

4.1 0.26 kg. Carafa Special Added in the last 10 mins of the mash

Hops

Amount Name Time

15.50 g. Centennial First WH
20.50 g. Columbus 60 min.
15.50 g. Centennial 15 min.
15.50 g. Columbus 15 min.
10.50g. Summit 5 min.
15.34 g. Centennial 5 min.
16.00 g. Summit 1 min.
16.00 g. Centennial 1 min.

Yeast

Nottingham

An here is one pic of the brew-day, first running’s and first wort hoping with centennial!