I want to do a simple and cheap hard apple cider. I have used apple wine base with jug apple juice in the past with very good results. I want to go cheap this round...the wine base is pricey. Any opinions out there on the best frozen concentrate for hard cider? I have Kroger, Whole Foods, Fresh Market and Sprouts as my main local stores. Also some independent and local grocers, and the usual varieties of ethnic markets you normally see a 1 mil +metro area.