This will be sloppy because I had the bright idea of drinking these back to back and at 7.5% and 8.5% I’ve very nearly forgotten how to type ( prologue to my edits).
Two years ago I had the bright idea of making a beer for my mom that she would like as a wine drinker and a wine that my dad would like as a beer drinker. It was a combo white grape Belgian triple and it was delicious. Since then I have found various examples of similar concepts and i believe our host has a kit (but I’m too to find it).