Yea I should be more specific. I haven't ordered yeast from NB for a while and I was always happy with yeast I got from them. Some of the cheaper online options for Wyeast not so much. Like @squeegeethree my LHBS moves a lot of product so their yeast is always really fresh. They're just 15 mins away. I send an email with my order, they call me for cc payment with curbside pickup. They're ordering less Wyeast all the time and I'm getting used to White Labs. They also carry omega and a couple of yeasts offered by local brewing companies that I haven't tried yet, as well as all kinds of dried yeast. Pretty lucky to have them so close by.