Mattnaik's Vienna Lager revisited

dannyboy58 · January 22, 2018, 10:34pm

No, brewed 12/6/17 kegged 1/6/18, lagered for a almost two weeks before trying. I have however left beers in the fermenter for much longer than 6 weeks when the pipeline was full or I was being lazy. Only lost one due to that. An irish ale I forgot about and left in a bucket for about 6 months. It was oxidized.

voodoo_donut · January 23, 2018, 10:33pm

Thinking about brewing this, this weekend…or a traditional Bock…definitely not too early for Bock season(new thread anyone?)

I know I’ll brew both! Lager season is here!

sneezles61 · January 23, 2018, 11:20pm

I’ve got the Negra at room temp now… I hope to start cold crashing this W/E… I really want to get a Miabock into the fermenters… Start a new thread VooDoo… Sneezles61

brew_cat · January 24, 2018, 12:00am

I’m knocking out a mex/Vienna lager this weekend myself

sneezles61 · January 24, 2018, 11:32am

As I understand, Negra Modelo is a dark Vienna offering… So would you do that from one brew? Perhaps just to steep the dark malt in a smaller stock pot and add after the lighter colored version was drained? Sneezles61

brew_cat · January 24, 2018, 12:51pm

Nah basically I’m using a Vienna lager recipe and adding flaked maize

dannyboy58 · January 24, 2018, 1:49pm

I use carafa special for color in my lagers. It imparts no extra roast flavor at all.

brew_cat · January 24, 2018, 2:53pm

Couldn’t get the carafaII at the store used chocolate malt. Didn’t use pilsner either need to get a sack. Vienna ,Munich, touch of wheat a bit of flaked maize. It’s all weighed out so that’s set. As far as hops I have mag, styrian g, and tett so that’s what I’ll use. Gotta use up the material I have.

dannyboy58 · January 24, 2018, 4:36pm

This is the color I get with the recipe above in this post.

brew_cat · January 24, 2018, 5:14pm

The SRM of mine is predicted to be 15.8 what is yours

dannyboy58 · January 24, 2018, 6:16pm

Recipe says 10.5 but it looks darker in the picture doesn’t it?

brew_cat · January 24, 2018, 7:38pm

Alot darker. Probably reflect in the background

sneezles61 · January 24, 2018, 10:53pm

I’d bet you couldn’t tell once its in your tummy!!! Looks tasty! Sneezles61

damian_winter · January 25, 2018, 1:24am

To be honest it more like a dunkel than a vienna. And on the site it says Munich dunkel style beer.

brew_cat · January 25, 2018, 1:48am

I thought a dunkel was a dark Vienna

loopie_beer · January 25, 2018, 10:33am

Vienna is a relative of Märzen and Dunkles is a relative of Bock.

damian_winter · January 25, 2018, 11:53am

Well said loopie

sneezles61 · January 25, 2018, 11:54am

I find that it now depends on who is writing the story… But one thing that the 5 different articles I just read, they are German lagers… And it seems to slip the Vienna lager into that pocket too… Sneezles61

brew_cat · January 25, 2018, 12:33pm

So Bock was fooling around with Vienna and ended up with Dunkel ?

dannyboy58 · January 25, 2018, 12:35pm

Certainly tastes more like a watered down vienna than a dunkel. Don’t get me wrong. I actually like it but Rogue says their dead guy ale is a maibock too…