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ITspossible, I didn’t even notice that you had just recommended racking. I’m not out to get you. I gave the same advice I always give in this situation: if you have a stuck fermentation and or an off flavor that maybe needs conditioning, leave it on the yeast. You are certainly free to disagree with me. I did the capitals that offended you so much to attract The OPs attention (guess it worked, they certainly attracted yours). I was just trying to save the OP from what I felt like was at best an unnecessary step and at worst might hurt.
Relax. Have a beer or three.
[quote=“Denny”]
It’s entirely possible for you to express your point if view without denigrating others.[/quote]
+1
Nate disagreed with you, but he didn’t call you out personally. It’s sad you have to be so rude Itspossible. You know what you’re talking about, but that knowledge is distracted from your blatant rudeness. Sometimes you have to bite your lip from what personally annoys you, and try to be polite. That way these threads could stay on topic, and you might be able to help the OP, rather than turning the entire thread (and others) into an argument. A part of being an adult is being able disagree with someone without insulting them. It’s sad i’m the one who has to say this, i’m only 23…
The fact is - we dont know what happened to the OP’s beer. To jump to the conclusion that it’s degrading yeast cells after 3 weeks is quite a leap. When the creator of the kit claims it should finish at a lower gravity maybe it did stall. Maybe a dramatic temperature swing caused the yeast to slow down, maybe his hydrometer reading was inaccurate, maybe the “sour” flavor he tasted was just a sample full of yeast and still-fermenting beer, or an off palate, or maybe you’re right. Either way, calm down dude - this is just a hobby.
ITs, when you call my personal experience of hundreds of batches “anecdotal junk”, I will walk away from any discussion with you.
+1. These posts are like homework.
[quote=“S.Scoggin”][quote=“Denny”]
It’s entirely possible for you to express your point if view without denigrating others.[/quote]
+1
Nate disagreed with you, but he didn’t call you out personally. It’s sad you have to be so rude Itspossible. You know what your talking about, but that knowledge is distracted from your blatant rudeness. Sometimes you have to bite your lip from what personally annoys you, and try to be polite. That way these threads could stay on topic, and you might be able to help the OP, rather than turning the entire thread (and others) into an argument. A part of being an adult is being able disagree with someone without insulting them. It’s sad i’m the one who has to say this, i’m only 23…
The fact is - we dont know what happened to the OP’s beer. To jump to the conclusion that it’s degrading yeast cells after 3 weeks is quite a leap. When the creator of the kit claims it should finish at a lower gravity maybe it did stall. Maybe a dramatic temperature swing caused the yeast to slow down, maybe his hydrometer reading was inaccurate, maybe the “sour” flavor he tasted was just a sample full of yeast and still-fermenting beer or an off palate, or maybe you’re right. Either way, calm down dude - this is just a hobby.[/quote]
Sad indeed, Cmon son. Youre now making lifestyle choices for me/others or directing how your utopian polite society operates for many other adults. Their are many that are afraid to speak because of PC/ socialist gearings like this. I grew up in an ERA where you first learn to be an adult before dictating how others twice your age should speak or act. I have earned the right to both speak knowledge and in what ever tone I feel that is within forum rules. DO you see me banned from any forums fellow adult? Cmon do somemore soul searching before you preach or speak down to me you little…
I happen to live in an America where I can and will speak down to you and be “rude” if you want to pick fights and prove your non-worth by knocking others down. As you have gathered I dont hold my tongue and feel its part of a norm being forgotten lately that you actually have a right and should stick up for principles sometimes instead of the sheeple mentality you got going.
And regarding you Denny,
In no way Have I called your topics or advice anecdotal. But if that’s what you are classifying your stuff now. So be it. I speak to proven technology and results. Such as my topic on 30 minute mashing we revisited recently (BECAUSE YOU REFUTED MY STATEMENT/ like said feel free to shine a light just dont be surprised when its beaming right back at you!) I can and will throw up my countless research from poeple such as AJ Delange and many others like Kai that are actually proving/ showing science and refuting things like 90+ minute mashings along with myself due to the facts alone. Are you really trying to argue proven brewing science in the name of “homebrewing science/fiction is better”?? I am totally lost by your comment.
Well in my “sheeple utopian society”, Hissy-fits, are reserved for the children. Didnt mean to make this become a social political thing. This is a homebrewing forum.
I’m out of here. There’s no point in reasoning with the unreasonable.
:cheers:
Yeah SS both you and Dobe are just grinding your gears because of past bad blood where I shoved your noses into your own BS and you keep trying to prove you can knock me down. Because it seems you only get involved in my threads just to say Oh that guy argues in the past etc… Yeah grudges are adult as He((!!!Lol
And if discussing topics in logical ways and means is hissy fits. Yikes times change. You simply cannot discuss anything unless you are within the socialist mindset of all be calm and obey SS or Dobe or whoever for that matter. I will speak my mind especially if your spouting BS this is not socialist Russia kid, yet.
IF your wrong kid, your wrong. Reason that. Until the bill of rights is totally gone, myself and others may question group mindsets, just to provoke thought in general.
If by BS you mean not detailed enough to your liking than yes. And logical discussions can be had without fishing for arguments.
You’re missing the point, ITs. It’s not what you say or even if you should/are allowed to/can say it… it’s HOW you say it.
K,
I forgot dobe is all powerful in the land o frost and all that speak ill are always wrong in whatever means possible. I will say whatever is proper and true and will not hold my tongue unless it is not my place to speak, in all these instances you or SS have been the flame baiters and/ or antagonistic parties coming into an already established discussion. To again just bestow your awesome presence on us lucky forum members that can be great if we agree with all that is right in your eye.
Truly guy, I get it your full of salt and need to let it rest boss.
[quote=“ITsPossible”]K,
I forgot dobe is all powerful in the land o frost and all that speak ill are always wrong in whatever means possible. I will say whatever is proper and true and will not hold my tongue unless it is not my place to speak, in all these instances you or SS have been the flame baiters and/ or antagonistic parties coming into an already established discussion. To again just bestow your awesome presence on us lucky forum members that can be great if we agree with all that is right in your eye.
Truly guy, I get it your full of salt and need to let it rest boss.[/quote]
Thanks for proving my point 
This thread has devolved into a giant butt-hurt example of grammatical errors rarely seen at this level on this forum…and I for one am enjoying it.
Sorry OP. I have nothing to add but I hope your beer turns out alright and I hope you’re enjoying the show. :twisted:
Please carry on. :cheers:
Ooookaaay, so getting back to my beer problem . . . I never got a chance to rack to the secondary so I took another reading and a taste just now. Gravity is 1.019 and the sour taste I thought was there seems to be only bitter now, so I am guessing that something spoiled my palate for my previous tasting. Perhaps something is still happening in that bucket . . . I shall take the advice of GeerBoggles and carry on.
At the risk of re-kindling the flamers, I have to say I am sorely disappointed in the lack of decorum here. Gentlemen, please lay down your weapons and fight no more.
All I wanted was a few words of advice and encouragement.
[quote=“pgbrew”]
All I wanted was a few words of advice and encouragement.[/quote]
1st, have you checked your hydrometer in RO/DI water to verify it’s reading correctly.
2nd, one of my mantra’s is “this to shall be beer”.
3rd, never dump a beer until you are absolutely, positivity, with out a doubt certain that it’s a goner. That could very well be after 6 months of being in the bottle.
[quote=“Nighthawk”][quote=“pgbrew”]
All I wanted was a few words of advice and encouragement.[/quote]
1st, have you checked your hydrometer in RO/DI water to verify it’s reading correctly.
2nd, one of my mantra’s is “this to shall be beer”.
3rd, never dump a beer until you are absolutely, positivity, with out a doubt certain that it’s a goner. That could very well be after 6 months of being in the bottle.[/quote]
good advice ^.
To the OP: Sometimes beer from the primary can taste a bit different than the final product. I’m glad you kept it in the primary, as it seems to still be fermenting. I would wait until the gravity remains stable for a couple days, then decide whether to secondary, or bottle.
and sorry about the banter :oops: …
[quote=“pgbrew”]Gravity is 1.019 and the sour taste I thought was there seems to be only bitter now, so I am guessing that something spoiled my palate for my previous tasting.
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I think you made the right move. I even went so far as as to leave my one and only pumpkin ale that got infected with lacto for a year, bottle it, and serve it to my sourhead friends, who thought it was awesome. Depending on the particular bug that takes hold, ‘infected’ beers can also be amazing for brining turkeys/chickens/parts of same if you dig cooking.
I have found that sometimes a taste of a partially fermented beer to be a bit sour. More ‘tart’ actually. Actively fermenting (or even suspended dormant) yeast can have some weird flavors. Thats why we pour bottle conditioned beer so carefully.
[quote=“pgbrew”]
At the risk of re-kindling the flamers, I have to say I am sorely disappointed in the lack of decorum here. Gentlemen, please lay down your weapons and fight no more. [/quote]
Well said. No blades, no bows, leave your weapons here.
[quote=“pgbrew”]
All I wanted was a few words of advice and encouragement.[/quote]
The NB forum is (almost always) the place to come for both.
[quote=“Pietro”]
[quote=“pgbrew”]
All I wanted was a few words of advice and encouragement.[/quote]
The NB forum is (almost always) the place to come for both.[/quote]
Yeah seriously, this little flame war is a rarity on this forum. Don’t let it sour you, this place is a wealth of good information!
If your gravity moved a couple or three points, I would try rousing the yeast at least a couple times, see if it’ll get interested again. This is why you should never move the beer off the cake until you’ve hit the desired terminal gravity.
