I brewed NBs Dry Irish Stout 11/18/2012. I like it. Few weeks ago I thought I should try a Guiness. Never had a stout before. Guiness is pretty good, but I like the larger body in NBs kit. My ABV came out to 3.81%. I think Guiness is slightly lower ABV. Hop bittering/aroma is very subjective for different palates. I did not think the hops came through as strong cluster hops, just as a lightly hopped brew. Is NBs Dry Irish Stout more stout like than Guiness? I don’t know.
I brewed Dry Irish Stout for a St Patty’s Day party last year…I don’t recall it being any more bitter than it should have been, and everyone, including a serious Guinness lover, preferred it to Guinness. I really did like that one. Nice and simple.
But like I said in that thread, it’s not NB’s fault that my or your taste buds don’t agree with there recipe.
A search of this board for “cat piss” brings up Simco, Fuggle, Citra, and Cluster. Also a reference to “black current” = “cat piss” which apparently is in a lot of English hop descriptions.
Some people love these hops and other can stand them.
Growing up we at “tuna hot dish” often. Don’t recall if I loved it, but I wasn’t repulsed by it. Had not had any for 20 years. A couple years ago my Mom made some. I could not get it past my nose. A bit upsetting to Mom. Not her fault.
[quote=“harpdog”]I had 2 NB kits recently that kind of surprised me.
English Pale Ale extract - sooooo bitter! Not an IPA, but just sooooo bitter
2 oz Kent Golding for 60 min, 1 ounce Kent Golding for 1 min
Dry Irish Stout extract - 2 ounces of Cluster Hops? It’s a good tasting beer, but the Cluster taste is strong and not too stout-like for me.
Any experience with these? I kind of feel like they did’t hit the mark on them.[/quote]
I brewed the St Paul Porter, which calls for 2oz cluster at 60. I can’t say I find that brew overly bitter, but it is around 10 gravity points higher if I remember correctly.
You sure some of the roasted barley isn’t providing some of the perceived bitterness?
I’m a long time guinness stout drinker and just bottled the NB dry irish stout extract 5 days ago. I tasted it between primary and secondary and found it very smooth and tasty. I was surprised to find it a little more bitter after secondary for 3 weeks. I’m very interested to see how it will taste after bottle conditioning.
If I remember correctly the kit instructions do not give an accurate IBU rating because they cannot know the Alpha acid levels of the hops they send.
When I get a NB kit I make sure to go to brewers friend and put in the kit specs as well as the hops that were sent to me and see what the IBUs should come out to be. You can then adjust to your taste.
I also like that I then have a record of my brew’s specs.