Hi folks, I am half way through steeping the grains of an extract kit that calls for a 60 minute boil.
Here’s the issue. I have a white labs and a Wyeast yeast on hand and both call for a minimum 3 hr.s before use. With the steeping and the full boil, I will have at least an hour before the yeast is ready.
What did you end up doing? I noticed this post about an hour too late. I only use the smack packs (Wyeast), so I would’ve just smacked it while the grains were steeping. After steeping the grains and doing an hour long boil, if the smack pack expanded at all you’d know if the yeast were viable. And if they were viable, I would just pitch them even if it hasn’t been three hours. The main thing is to make sure the yeast are viable.
I slowed the time from the steep (finish) to the boil. Considering the time added for the cool down, I should be ok. This is my first smack pack…so thanks for the confidence on the expanding pack. It is already beginning.
Whew…never brew when you are multi-tasking…especially many (way) less important tasks than brewing!!!
It will help estimate viability of the yeast you have and if you have enough cells to make the right pitch. You can still work with less, but it may lead to some issues if you have a heavier beer and too little viable yeast cells.
I used this to help me estimate the starter I needed for my 1.078 christmas style extract beer, and I was bubbling away in under 6 hours.
It will help estimate viability of the yeast you have and if you have enough cells to make the right pitch. You can still work with less, but it may lead to some issues if you have a heavier beer and too little viable yeast cells.
I used this to help me estimate the starter I needed for my 1.078 christmas style extract beer, and I was bubbling away in under 6 hours.[/quote]
This is the pitch rate calculator I use also. Check out the calculator a week before your planned brew date. This will give you the time to complete a starter, if one would would be necessary for the age of your yeast. Always keep some light DME on hand so there isn’t an extra shopping trip to work into your schedule.
I don’t think the actual smacking of the smack pack is absolutely necessary, nor is the 3 hour time period they recommend. Obviously, it helps because it gives the yeast a dose of nutrient and gets them to “wake up” a bit before they get pitched into 5 gallons of wort, but they’ll still do the job without the smacking or the full 3 hours. I’ve made starters with barely inflated smack packs that worked just fine. As has been said, it’s more important to make sure you have enough of them to do the job appropriately.
No, it doesn’t and there’s some evidence that it’s better of it doesn’t. When it warms up the yeast start consuming their nutrient reserves and you want that to happen when the yeast is in the beer, not before. For the last 350-400 batches I’ve taken my yeast (starter) out of the fridge, decanted it and pitched immediately. No problems, great performance.
No, it doesn’t and there’s some evidence that it’s better of it doesn’t. When it warms up the yeast start consuming their nutrient reserves and you want that to happen when the yeast is in the beer, not before. For the last 350-400 batches I’ve taken my yeast (starter) out of the fridge, decanted it and pitched immediately. No problems, great performance.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s also my SOP. Thanks for the confirmation.
Not sure if it’s the better way to do it or not, but when I cold crash a starter, I’ll pull it out of the fridge right when I start brewing and dump off most of the liquid so that there’s just the yeast cake and enough liquid left to slosh it around and get it out of the container when I pitch it. Then I set it on the counter and let it sit at room temp until I’m ready to pitch, so generally around 3 hours or so. Helps it warm up a little bit before pitching.
Not sure if it’s the better way to do it or not, but when I cold crash a starter, I’ll pull it out of the fridge right when I start brewing and dump off most of the liquid so that there’s just the yeast cake and enough liquid left to slosh it around and get it out of the container when I pitch it. Then I set it on the counter and let it sit at room temp until I’m ready to pitch, so generally around 3 hours or so. Helps it warm up a little bit before pitching.[/quote]
Just as a test, try not warming it up for a few batches. See if you notice any difference.