Jamil's APA

[pietro]

Anyone brewed it? Some reviews (by “reviews” I of course mean “forum posts”) say it is too ‘biscuity’.

I would like this beer to have some substance. One of my favorite APA’s is Duckpin by Union Craft Brewing, but they have very limited distribution so I don’t expect anyone to know what I like about it. SNPA is a little too flabby and one dimensional for what I’m looking for. I also love the malt profile of Dale’s Pale Ale, which in my mind is bordering on IPA territory. Anyone have a reliable Dale’s clone?

[donovan_lambright]

From Brewing Classic Styles?

[pietro]

correct. There are actually two of them I believe, one with a bit more crystal/caramel.

[tom_sawyer]

You’re awful damn picky.

I tried using Maris Otter in an APA a couple of times and didn’t like the degree of malt flavor. Now I stick with 2-row and a little crystal, I vary the crystal for variety.

I also know that an APA doesn’t take the same massive hop additions as an IPA. Although if you find yourself with a beer that is out of balance, you can let it age a bit and the hops fade into the right territory. I’d maybe shoot for an IBU:GU of 0.8 for an APA.

I generally consult BCS and NB’s recipes when I am going to brew something I don’t always brew, but then I generally tailor it to my personal tastes and to the materials I have on hand.

[muddywater_grant]

I went with something based on his non crystal grain bill on my last APA. It is still in primary, but it taste great.

Summer Pale

Recipe specifics:

Style: American Pale Ale
Batch size: 5.5 gal
Boil volume: 7.0 gal
OG: 1.051
FG: 1.013
Bitterness (IBU): 52.5
Color (SRM): 6.8
ABV: 5.0%

Grain/Sugars:

8.50 lb Maris Otter Malt, 85.0%
0.50 lb Victory Malt, 5.0%
0.50 lb CaraPils, 5.0%
0.50 lb Weyermann Light Munich, 5.0%

Hops:

0.50 oz Chinook (AA 11.5%, Pellet) 60 min, 19.7 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook (AA 11.5%, Pellet) 20 min, 12.0 IBU (FWH)
0.50 oz Amarillo (AA 8.0%, Pellet) 10 min, 5.0 IBU
0.50 oz Citra (AA 14.4%, Pellet) 10 min, 9.0 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe (AA 10.0%, Pellet) 5 min, 6.8 IBU
0.50 oz Amarillo (AA 8.0%, Pellet) 0 min, 0.0 IBU
0.50 oz Citra (AA 14.4%, Pellet) 0 min, 0.0 IBU

Yeast:

US05

Maris Otter - 3.5-4.5° L. Rich, slightly nutty flavor. Excellent for any English beer style
Victory - 28° L. Gives gold to light brown color and a toasty, bread-like malt flavor.
Munich - 8.3° L. High-kilned lager malt with intense malt flavor and amber color.

[pietro]

[quote=“tom sawyer”]You’re awful damn picky.
[/quote]

I thought the whole reason to homebrew was that I CAN be picky :mrgreen:

I have a half sack of pilsner malt. Ok to use in place of 2-row? Although this is somewhat of a use-whats-on-hand beer and somewhat of a grow-yeast beer, I would still likely make something I like to drink. Going to mess with hop bill, but likely going to do a mix of columbus, centennial and galaxy.

[shadetree]

[quote=“Pietro”]I have a half sack of pilsner malt. Ok to use in place of 2-row?[/quote]Do a 90-minute boil with it and you might want to add a little more specialty malt to compensate for the cleaner Pils profile (Munich or Vienna would be my choice).

[pietro]

Went with the following. All my new LHBS had for dry Chico was BRY-75, which, according to forums, takes forever to start, but according to yeastcalc, is awesome in every way US-05 is, but flocs a little quicker/harder, causing hop bitterness to dampen, which may work, since this little f%#@!er has pretty decent IBU’s for an APA. The important thing is that I’m growing up yeast for the RIS. May save some slurry for another APA I have to brew for a party for a vet thats coming home from the AFG after being gone a year…thanks for all the suggestions…

going dry hop with 1oz Galaxy 1oz Simcoe…I hate Beer Tools Pro btw.

Galactic Simconian APA
10-A American Pale Ale
Date: 7/11/2013

Size: 5.76 gal @ 68 °F
Efficiency: 75.0%
Attenuation: 75.0%
Calories: 182.02 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.055 (1.045 - 1.060)
Terminal Gravity: 1.014 (1.010 - 1.015)
Color: 7.27 (5.0 - 14.0)
Alcohol: 5.38% (4.5% - 6.0%)
Bitterness: 48.1 (30.0 - 45.0)

Ingredients:
10 lb (83.3%) 2-Row Brewers Malt - added during mash
1 lb (8.3%) Melanoidin Malt - added during mash
.5 lb (4.2%) Crystal 15 - added during mash
.5 lb (4.2%) Pale Wheat Malt - added during mash
.5 oz (13.3%) AU Galaxy (14.1%) - added first wort
.25 oz (6.7%) Magnum (14.5%) - added during boil, boiled 60 m
.5 oz (13.3%) AU Galaxy (14.1%) - added during boil, boiled 20.0 m
.5 oz (13.3%) Simcoe® (13.0%) - added during boil, boiled 15 m
0.0 tsp Whirlfloc Tablets (Irish moss) - added during boil
.5 oz (13.3%) AU Galaxy (14.1%) - added during boil, boiled 10 m
.5 oz (13.3%) Simcoe® (13.0%) - added during boil, boiled 5.0 m
.5 oz (13.3%) AU Galaxy (14.1%) - added during boil
.5 oz (13.3%) Simcoe® (13.0%) - added during boil
1 ea Danstar BRY-75

Schedule:
Ambient Air: 70.0 °F
Source Water: 60.0 °F
Elevation: 0.0 m

00:03:00 Untitled Step - Liquor: 6.0 gal; Strike: 160.96 °F; Target: 153 °F

Notes
pre boil volume of 7 gallons at 1.044
post-boil reading was also 1.044 (?), 6 gallons into decanting fermenter at 100*
could have been read error, refrac was calibrated

Results generated by BeerTools Pro 1.5.24

[tom_sawyer]

@Shadetree

[quote=“Pietro”]I have a half sack of pilsner malt. Ok to use in place of 2-row?[/quote]Do a 90-minute boil with it and you might want to add a little more specialty malt to compensate for the cleaner Pils profile (Munich or Vienna would be my choice).

Exactly.

[quote=“Pietro”][quote=“tom sawyer”]You’re awful damn picky.
[/quote]

I thought the whole reason to homebrew was that I CAN be picky :mrgreen: [/quote]
But of course.

Have you drank any beer with Galaxy in it? I have a pound coming, want to make a single hop APA to get its flavor and then I’ll no doubt be uising it in my American hop blends.

[pietro]

There is an AWESOME brewery in Baltimore called Union that launched about 2 years ago, and their flagship APA called Duckpin is all Galaxy after the bittering addition. Really, really solid beer. I would bet you will not be disappointed with your purchase!

[holaday1185]

@Pietro

Went with the following. All my new LHBS had for dry Chico was BRY-75, which, according to forums, takes forever to start, but according to yeastcalc, is awesome in every way US-05 is, but flocs a little quicker/harder, causing hop bitterness to dampen, which may work

Pulled an all Columbus Pale off a cake of BRY97. Initial taste was great — OG was 1.056 and FG was 1.010, roughly 80% attenuation. I crashed cooled it for a few days to further clear, but you are right, the yeast flocs very well. I can’t say much in the hop bitterness department, as I’ve never done a beer solely with columbus. First tastes indicate a great balance — I think my ibus were around 40. Will let you know how it tastes after it’s carbed up.