[quote=“dsiets”][quote=“grainbelt”][quote=“dsiets”]I’ve never found using a secondary to be as much work as many make it out to be.
Sure you have to clean your siphon when done but all I do is run some hot water through it as soon as I’m done. Hang it up to dry and it’s ready to be sanitized at next use. Takes a few min.
As for cleaning secondaries, while I use both buckets and glass for primary, I find the easiest container to clean to be glass secondaries. Since there is no active fermentation my biggest concern is the small ring that appears at the liquid level. It comes right off w/ a carboy brush.
The most time consuming aspect for me is waiting the 5 or so min while it transfers. Not a big deal considering I probably spent around 5 hrs. on brew day to get it to this point.
The benefit for me is cleaner beer weeks faster. It opens up primary. Also, when I reuse yeast, I like the idea of reusing it sooner rather later.
My preference anyway.[/quote]
your missing tons of stuff… to say it takes a few minutes to secondary is BS. And you are not having clearer beer weeks faster you are just letting it sit longer, you can let it sit in the primary that extra time and have just as clear of beer. If not you are disturbing yeast or moving carboys etc…
Your talking half hour to an hour at least…to where you can just let it sit in the primary longer rack carefully and save your self the whole process
You have to gather equipment
clean and sanitize, fermenter, racking canes, siphons, tubing etc…
Rack your beer depending how you rack and the size of hardware being used times vary.
Clean all used equipment and pack back up, then going through the process all over again to rack out of secondary.
You are adding well over an hour to a brew for doing something that is not needed for most beers[/quote]
Yes, for example, my last beer I skipped secondary, it was still cloudy at 4 weeks in primary and 2 weeks in keg @ 40 degrees.
Yes, yeast strain comes into play but I don’t normally have this problem like when I use a secondary.
The norm for me is 1.5-2 weeks primary, 1 week secondary, and it is cleared. So no I’m not taking yeast w/ it.
As for time:
Grab my racking assembly and secondary fermenter, expose them to bucket of starsan. 5 min. (I usually store a couple stoppers and airlocks in my starsan bucket so I’m only grabbing my starsan bucket, syphon assembly, and carboy.)
Insert racking cane into fermenter and transfer. 5 min.
Rinse syphon w/ hot water (I keep the hose attached) and hang it up like I found it. 5 min.
(I’m not including cleaning the primary because that will have to be done regardless of using a secondary or not.)
When secondary is done it really only needs to be brushed at the neck where the liquid line was, otherwise a hot rinse and inspection takes care of it. 5 min.
If in doubt, add some cleaner and fill it w/ hot water. 5 min.
That’s pretty much how I do it.[/quote]
I would have to question something in your process and you have really cloudy beer at 6 weeks with 2 of them being in a fridge. It is either supposed to be cloudy low folccer or something else is wrong. 10 years of brewing if it is a decent flocc yeast its clear beer by the time I am pouring out the keg after the first few pulls Usually 2-5 weeks no secondary
I can not see how only doing 3 with a sceondary os going to make that much of an improvement vs twice the time in primary.