Put together a 20 gallon brew pot and am designing a CFC. I think I will hard thread it to my pot. My question is, if my water is below 60 year round how long should it be. I would like it as compact as possible.
I believe it’s dependent on a couple things. Here is the one I purchased.
http://www.morebeer.com/products/wort-c ... tings.htmlGoing to use 15’ of 3/8 inside 3/4 tubing. It’s not twisted tubing so I’m not sure how how to agitate the water flow. Maybe soder little pieces of 12ga wire along the 3/8 tubing.
That would certainly work. It might be easier to wire a whole piece of twisted wire through the entire pipe.
I’m still amazed at your water being below 60° all year. Even here in central NY ours gets up in the high 60’s or more in the summer. In Florida you can basically shower in the water without heating it.
My well is pretty deep. Over 200’ so it’s a pretty constant temperature. I’m going to measure the temp today since this is as warm as it will get this year.
Yup. Just checked it at the faucet. 60deg. That’s just running it for a couple minuets. Probably gets colder when I’m chilling because I’m running it longer. My well water is pretty awsome 7.2 ph to boot. I think I will twist a piece of wire around the entire length of the 3/8
Hey brew cat, I wonder ifn you put some dimples along yer 3/8" tubing, would that also cause the flow of wort to be altered? I have a project like yours to do also, now that I have a pump. Did you put a re-circ port on yer boil pot too? Sneezles61
I’m only using gravity so I won’t be whirl pooling. I plan on lining my fermenting buckets with paint staining bags to strain out the hot break. I think that would work for now.
[quote=“Loopie Beer”]I believe it’s dependent on a couple things. Here is the one I purchased.
http://www.morebeer.com/products/wort-c ... tings.html[/quote]That is the same one I use except that I use two of them in series with cold water being fed separately to both. It works great even in August. I do 20+ gallons and pump it dry in usually less than ten minutes.Greg with 20 gal batches you would need 2. CFCs work well but understand that you will add to the cleaning regimen so if you hate cleaning it might not be for you.
[quote=“Loopie Beer”]Greg with 20 gal batches you would need 2. CFCs work well but understand that you will add to the cleaning regimen so if you hate cleaning it might not be for you.[/quote]It doesn’t add any time to the cleaning process. My system is CIP (clean in place) as I just recirculate PBW and hot water throughout. Here is a picture to help understand.
I have the same one and find it’s not as effective as the garden hose type. I’ve had both, and the chillzilla just doesn’t cool enough. Greg, my thought is that you have similar results which is why you have two in series.
Of course, I always complain about system loss because the more length I add the more wort I end up sacrificing. You just can’t please me…
I’ve soon to put one to use, but will use my IC inline in a bucket of ice water to feed a CFC, but then I want to recirculate in the BK until temp is correct…. Sneezles61
[quote=“moose”]I have the same one and find it’s not as effective as the garden hose type. I’ve had both, and the chillzilla just doesn’t cool enough. Greg, my thought is that you have similar results which is why you have two in series.
Of course, I always complain about system loss because the more length I add the more wort I end up sacrificing. You just can’t please me…[/quote]Correct (in the summer months). The other 9 months, I run the pump BTTW as fast as it’ll go through the chillers and the 22 gallons takes about 6 minutes to chill. I throttle the chiller water so it doesn’t get the wort too cold.
[quote=“moose”]I have the same one and find it’s not as effective as the garden hose type. I’ve had both, and the chillzilla just doesn’t cool enough. Greg, my thought is that you have similar results which is why you have two in series.
Of course, I always complain about system loss because the more length I add the more wort I end up sacrificing. You just can’t please me…[/quote]
Why do you think the garden hose type works better? Are they the same length? Maybe the outer copper conducts heat to the atmosphere. I havnt put it together yet so maybe I’ll use the rubber outer jacket. I don’t see we’re the copper adds anything it’s the temperature of the water.
[quote=“Brew Cat”][quote=“moose”]I have the same one and find it’s not as effective as the garden hose type. I’ve had both, and the chillzilla just doesn’t cool enough. Greg, my thought is that you have similar results which is why you have two in series.
Of course, I always complain about system loss because the more length I add the more wort I end up sacrificing. You just can’t please me…[/quote]
Why do you think the garden hose type works better? Are they the same length? Maybe the outer copper conducts heat to the atmosphere. I havnt put it together yet so maybe I’ll use the rubber outer jacket. I don’t see we’re the copper adds anything it’s the temperature of the water.[/quote]The garden hose type usually has a 3/8" inner copper tube whereas the ChillZilla is 1/2" inner. For me, I like the copper outer for when I am recirculating either boiling wort or PBW and I don’t have to worry about melting the outer hose/tube.
It seems 3/8 would drain slower and chill faster. Just a guess. I have 3/8 and 3/4 copper that didn’t cost me, but now I’m wondering.
[quote=“Brew Cat”]It seems 3/8 would drain slower and chill faster. Just a guess. I have 3/8 and 3/4 copper that didn’t cost me, but now I’m wondering.[/quote]Oh most definitely. It’s about the ratio of the wort surface area to chill water side surface area.
Sorry for the late reply. Yeah, it has to do with the smaller diameter and at 25’ by the time it exits the coil it’s the same temp as the chilling water.
But again, it takes longer, and I think you have more loss. So there are positives and negatives. Plus, the chillzilla’s are pricey, whereas you can build a hose model fairly cheap.
