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Anybody have a Saga clone?

Curios if anybody’s had much success cloning Saga. I definitely drink more of this than any other commercial beer, and at its price point, I’ve never really tried to clone it- but I kind of want to give it a go now.

Here’s what Summit provides on their website:
Original Gravity: 14 P (1.057)
Alcohol by Weight: 5.1%
Alcohol by Volume: 6.2%
Color, (deg. L.): Rich Gold (9.0 L)
IBUs: 80
Malts Utilized: 2-Row Pale, Caramel
Hops Utilized: Centennial, Amarillo, Citra, Rakau (dry-hopped: Amarillo, Citra, Rakau)
Yeast: American Ale

The commercial beer is light and clean, so I’m thinking very little caramel malt. As for hopping schedule, I’m open to ideas… I’m stabbing in the dark here, but thinking mostly late hops, maybe more Rakau/Amarillo than Citra. Has anybody had any success in brewing their own copy?

Just ask for the hops as well and sort of create your own recipy. Me i had some coastal evacuation. Real jummy. Did ask the brewer. If i can have the ingedients recipy. He did give me. Did order the ingedients. From nb. And did brew one. Did not taste yet its still in the second fermentor.

On brewersfriend. There. Is a summit saga ipa recipy. Lots of hops adtion i did see

I did take a look at that one, but the hopping schedule looked a little off to me. I’m hoping to come closer to the 80 IBU mark than 150. I also wasn’t sure about the 1.5 lbs of c60. Seemed a little heavy to me.

Did look at it for a few min. Did think the same

This thread over at AHA may be of interest: Summit Saga. Aside; in the future, if the above link is broken, look for Topic: Summit Saga dated: August 27, 2014 in the AHA forums

When comparing the proposed recipe to the Summit web site, ABV and IBUs are “close enough” for a starting point. Hops and yeast in the recipe (below) match what Summit has at their web site and the timing of the hop additions is simple.

This is the **proposed** clone recipe from the above article. It’s not mine, but I’d use it as a starting point.

Saga Clone
American IPA (14 B)
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.96 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
End of Boil Vol: 5.46 gal
Final Bottling Vol: 4.75 gal
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
Equipment: Pot and Cooler (15/10 gallon)
Efficiency: 65.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 68.2 %
Taste Rating: 30.0
Taste Notes:
10 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 88.9 %
13.4 oz Caramel Malt - 60L (Briess) (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 6.9 %
8.0 oz Carapils (Briess) (1.5 SRM) Grain 3 4.1 %
2.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 77.0 IBUs
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 6 -
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 ml] Yeast 7 -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Rakau (Alpharoma) [10.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color
Est Original Gravity: 1.057 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.7 %
Bitterness: 77.0 IBUs
Est Color: 9.0 SRM
Measured Original Gravity: 1.058 SG

Mash Profile
Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Sparge Water: 2.83 gal
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE
Total Grain Weight: 12 lbs 1.4 oz
Grain Temperature: 65.0 F
Tun Temperature: 65.0 F
Mash PH: 5.50
Mash Steps Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 16.11 qt of water at 168.7 F 152.0 F 60 min
Mash Out Add 7.20 qt of water at 211.4 F 168.0 F 10 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun , 2.83gal) of 168.0 F water
Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).

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I just got a version into the fermentor. I will report results later, but here’s what I settled on:

11 lbs 2 row
1 lb c60

2 oz centennial 60 min
1 oz Rakau (flameout)
.5 oz Citra (flameout)
.5 oz Amarillo (flameout)
.5 oz Centennial (flameout)

1 oz Rakau (dry hop)
.5 oz Citra (dry hop)
.5 oz Amarillo (dry hop)
.5 oz Centennial (dry hop)

Wy1272

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I’ll be looking for your report!! Sneezles61

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