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by Taylor-MadeAK » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:28 pm

There's also red koji (aka "red yeast rice"), which is commonly used in China to make huangjiu and Shaoxing rice wine. The Japanese sometimes use it in conjunction with their usual koji to make akai sake (red sake). It's just about impossible to get red koji in the US, though, because the FDA has banned its sale as a nutritional supplement. It turns out that the monascus purpureus mold that makes red koji red produces significant amounts of a chemical that happens to be the active ingredient in prescription cholesterol control drugs. Doesn't stop people from ordering RYR pills and powder from China off the internet, but I still haven't found a source for red koji in its whole form.

The problem you're having with drying at the edges of your koji culture reminds me of the descriptions I've read for the traditional methods of producing koji by hand, which is still often used today in Japan even though there are automated methods available. I could go into deep detail, but the method really boils down to mixing the inoculated rice by hand every couple hours and keeping it balled up between mixing sessions. After reading your account of making koji, I can see why the Japanese developed their traditional method and how it would help. Keeping the culture in a ball would help keep drying to a minimum by reducing the surface area to its minimum, while spreading the rice out while mixing allows the accumulated heat generated by the mold's growth to dissipate.
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New batch of Koji

by dray » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:11 pm

I figured the first batch of koji wasn't really a good one, so I tried again.

I soaked 3 cups of rice for 12 hours or so, then steamed and cooled to 88F ish.

Since I was making about a double batch, I measured out 1/4 teaspoon of spores, put a piece of folded cheescloth over the measuring spoon and tapped away, making a real nice even dispersment. I would cover the top of the rice, mix and fold and repeat until all the spore powder was dispensed. Then I added another 1/4 amount and reapeated. Once all mixed in, I took 3 cups formed in mounds and placed them on a sheet of saran wrap. This went on a plastic plate. I then placed another sheet of wrap across the top and poked holes in it. I made 2 plates this way.

Took plates and used the same setup as before, with the probe of the temp controller wrapped in saran, pushed into a mound.

After 24 hours it smells like I would expect, and a nice white powder is all over the place. Its really going well this time. Nothing is really drying out, and all the grains have somthing on them. I took out the plates and lifted the saran covers to spread out the mounds into a nice 3/4 inch thick matt. Grains are seperated and mixed. Put the 'wrap lid' back on. I wanted to try saran wrap with some holes so I wouldn't have to mess with the rice sticking into the cheesecloth. This seems to work very well so far.

So what is different?? Used a little more rice, had a MUCH better job of spreading the spores around, and the rice were in half-balls to start, holding the moisture needed to start the colony better.

The growth of the mold will dry out the rice, but you don't want the rice to be dry when it starts. The saran wrap traps a good portion of moisture as some vapor was collecting underside. The holes in the top portion allows the rice to breath a little bit.

And most importantly - its white!!! Nice white frosting, not yellow :)

I have a suspicion that if the rice is a little dryer, the colony will go to spore faster, and that is what I had. My first attempt actually went to spore, as the color is yellow with a very light green. The inside of my container from batch 1 has a light dusting as well. I suppose I could break out the microscope to see if I can tell, but I really wouldn't know what I am looking for.

I like the idea of moist cheesecloth, but I wanted to try the wrap to help reduce chances of contamination. I would think the cheesecloth would be fine to use as well.
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by Taylor-MadeAK » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:07 pm

Way to go! I can't wait to see pics of this batch.
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Pics

by dray » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:36 pm

Ah yea - forgot to take pics this time... I will take some in little bit. I just finished through seperating the rice again. Yea- this stuff is taking off like fire. Another difference is I soaked the rice for a little under 12 hours, instead of 18. I suspect this may not have a huge factor, but the rice would have just a little bit more of structure. I do believe spreading out the koji spores evenly and by folding and mixing actually made the real difference on this batch.

Batch 1 pics - finished Koji
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Batch 2, day 2 - 2/3 done already - white and rice not drying out. Saran wrap makes it harder to see..
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by Taylor-MadeAK » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:38 pm

Hey dray, did you happen to record volumes and weights during your koji production? I'm trying to get a handle on calculating just how much rice to use for making koji for my normal size batch of sake.

I know my guide says 2.5 pounds (40 oz), but that's for the Cold Mountain Koji - which is dried. When using fresh koji the weight to volume ratio is probably going to be considerably higher because of the amount of water involved. If you happen to have volume and weight numbers for your finished koji, that would be very helpful in giving me a starting point for figuring this out.

Just to give myself some easy to find numbers, in volumetric terms a batch of sake requires the following additions of koji:

0.5 cup (moto)
1.0 cup (hatsuzoe)
1.5 cup (nakazoe - this uses up the last of the first 20 oz tub of koji)
3.0 cup (tomezoe - simple math, the above totals 3 cups and uses up one 20 oz tub of koji)

That's six cups total of the dried koji, which is 25% of the 24 dry cups in a 10 pound bag of rice. One cup of dry white rice weighs 7 ounces.

Edit: Answering my own question by re-reading the thread here:

dray wrote:About 2 cups of rice gives me pretty much 1 lb of rice uncooked, ended up with 4 cups of steamed, so I think I will have enough koji for the 3 gallon batch. Started at 1:30pm, so should know in 2 days...


So you're doubling in volume, which is about what I expected (I've never measured my post-steaming volume...). In that case, it's good that you started over because your first try would've left you short 2 cups short of the 6 cups you need for a standard batch of sake. I'm going to amend my sake how-to guide with this information, as well as adding a link to the koji guide when I've finished writing it.

I'm working on my koji growing guide, by the way. Haven't started making the koji yet because I don't have all my ducks quite lined up, but I have a setup put together that is materially nearly identical to yours (table-shattering images follow):

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by dray » Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:38 am

Hmm.. never thought of taking weights before and after :) I came up with about 2 cups of dried rice came up 15 3/4 oz, almost a pound. My second batch I used 3 cups. I figure, better to have extra than not enough.

I will weigh a cup of Koji out and see its weight, and see how much of it I have.

Will post results in a bit.
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by dray » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:02 am

Measures:

1 cup of my Koji was just shy of 6 oz ( 6 3/4 oz, dry cup weight of 7/8oz)
I have 5 and 2/3 cups left after moto (using 1/2 cup)

So 3 cups of dried rice make almost 6 cups Koji that has some moisture in it. I am keeping it in a tupper wear container in the fridge.

I used two 1/4 teaspoon spore additions, and using a folded piece of cheescloth over the spoon, sprinkled as evenly across the surface as I could.

I was thinking I would be making a little extra, so now I would suggest steaming 3 1/2 to 4 cups of rice to give a margin.


Some Pics:

Finished Koji
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Start of Moto: 6 hours after adding rice
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24-36 hours after start of Moto
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by Taylor-MadeAK » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:18 pm

Thanks for the data dray, I'll keep your recommendation in mind.

Your early moto looks exactly they way I would expect it to. Looks like you've got a good start!
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by Taylor-MadeAK » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:03 pm

Started my own first batch of koji yesterday, in the name of creating content for www.taylor-madeak.org. :mrgreen: It's been 24 hours now and, while it definitely smells like something is going on in there (nutty, cheesy, sulfury), I don't see any visible growth yet. We'll see what the next few hours will bring.

Scratch that, I just checked on the rice to give it a stir, and I'm starting to see white frosting on the grains. :D
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by dray » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:15 pm

Sweet! Good luck to your Koji! Sounds like it hit the ground running.

Do you have pics on your site?
Yea - now that you say nutty - I would agree with that... no gym socks for you? Give it some time :)
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by Taylor-MadeAK » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:33 pm

When you say "gym socks," the smell that comes to mind is ammonia, and I'm definitely not getting any of that. I've gotten a good whiff or two of sulfur, though. You know, rotten eggs? Not much, but it's there.

I have pics up, but they're not anywhere where you can browse them yet. I'm still writing the article for the site, and they're going to be all through there. Here's a few at table-shattering resolution for you:

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This last one is the rice after 30 hours of incubation.
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by Taylor-MadeAK » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:09 pm

My guide is all but finished, I just have one detail that I'm waiting on experiment results to fill in. Here's a sneak peek photo, taken just 10 minutes ago:

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I'll let you draw your own conclusions. :D
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