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Post Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:34 am

Licher Bier

Anyone familiar with Licher? Have an idea on how to find any in the US? Maybe a recipe? I was in the Army and stationed outside Frankfurt, GE back in the 80's; a popular local beer was Licher. I drove through the town (Lich) often as it was close by...fond memories. Anyway, 've searched this forum and googled, etc. It's not easy finding Licher. I contacted the brewery, they have a web site, but they didn't respond.

Anyone? :?:
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Post Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:03 pm

Re: Licher Bier

Were you stationed in Giessen?

"Aus dem Herzen der Natur." This has been one of my favorites for the last 35 years. I used to drink the Export and Pils every day when I was a kid, and I miss it. I gave up trying to get it in the States years ago, and only get to have it a couple times a decade, now. I use to hear stories that it was seen occasionally in New York City, but I don't think it's officially imported. DAB is widely available and a good substitute for the Export, and I'll occasionally settle for Bitburger, who owns them now, as a slightly inferior substitute for the Pils.

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Post Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:46 am

Re: Licher Bier

Hey, thanks for the comments. Guess I'm going to have to finalize that trip back to Germany to feed my Jones.

I was stationed in Friedberg. Elvis was there! Well, I may have missed him by 30 or 40 years, but they did name the mess hall after him. My wife was stationed in Giessen. She wasn't my wife when we met, but after awhile she got tired of me just hanging around and made it official.

Licher was in every Gasthous, Schnell Imbus and petrol station in and around Friedberg. As I remember, it was very strong and hoppy for a Pilsner; at least to my then un-educated taste buds. I'd love to have one now just to see how close my memory is. Didn't know Bit bought them. I do enjoy a Bit and it's easier to find here.

Also, one of my favorite beers on tap, believe it or not, was good old Pilsner Urquell. There was a place called the Werkstadt in Sachenhausen where they served it on a regular basis. OK, it may have been the bartender I was trying to pick-up week after week (before I met my wife!)
because she was a cutie. Never got anywhere with her, but I did quaff a few Urquell.

I'll let you know if I hear anything different on availability. Thanks for trip down memory lane :D
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Post Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:07 am

Re: Licher Bier

Well, according to the website (for the Premium Pils):
Stammwuerze 11,5%
Alcoholgehalt 4,9%

So I think that gives you and OG of 1.046 and an FG of around 1.012. Grain bill is probably mostly Pils malt. Play around with a recipe calculator to get the color and IBU's you're looking for.
The lif so short, the craft so long to lerne,
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Post Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:42 pm

Re: Licher Bier

Ok, I'm bored so I played around with a recipe calculator. Never having tasted this I'm working blind (practically normal for the interwebs).

Blinder Licher
For 5 gallons

7 lbs pils malt
2 lbs light munich

1 oz Tett 60 min
1 oz Hallertau 20 min
1 oz Tett 10 min
1 oz Hallertau 0 min

Then a lager yeast of course but I don't mess with those as I hear they'll put your eye out.
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Post Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:17 pm

Re: Licher Bier

joehastime1 wrote:Hey, thanks for the comments. Guess I'm going to have to finalize that trip back to Germany to feed my Jones.

I'll let you know if I hear anything different on availability. Thanks for trip down memory lane :D

Same here. I have a great memory of being 15 or 16 and passing boots full of Licher around a table at a Kneipe in Gruenberg. I remember the Pils as having a particularly spicy/herbal flavor and aroma. Perhaps someone with experience brewing Pilsners could nail down the particular hops and yeast, but I wouldn't have a clue about how to go about trying to clone a particular Pils other than trial and error. A recipe like the one above would probably give you a start toward a nice German Pilsner, though.

There's certainly nothing hard to believe about appreciating Pilsner Urquell, though, German barmaid or not. It's still one of the best beers in the world. Just got back from the Czech Republic, myself, and I drank more than my share of PU while I was there.
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Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:46 pm

Re: Licher Bier

I have a friend who gets to Frankfurt and Munich on business regularly and has brought some Licher back with him - that is good Pils. I also like the Henninger Export (white label in Germany). I wish I could get a clone recipe for either of them....I just made an HP Munich Gold clone this past weekend and I am hoping it will turn out good. Just using WL 830 for that one.

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Post Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:20 pm

Re: Licher Bier

ynotbrusum wrote:I have a friend who gets to Frankfurt and Munich on business regularly and has brought some Licher back with him - that is good Pils. I also like the Henninger Export (white label in Germany). I wish I could get a clone recipe for either of them....I just made an HP Munich Gold clone this past weekend and I am hoping it will turn out good. Just using WL 830 for that one.

:cheers:

I haven't had a Henninger in years. I was pretty fond of it once upon a time, in large part to youthful memories of drinking beer in the rotating restaurant at the top of their brewery tower in Frankfurt. Unfortunately, they've gone bankrupt, closed the brewery in downtown Frankfurt as well as the cool restaurant in 2002, and now the Henninger Turm is going to be demolished.
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Post Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:35 pm

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Pretty sure I had some in Fulda around 5 years ago.

Do they serve those in stange glasses in a circular tray that holds 9 or so glasses of beer?

If it is the beer I am remembering, it is a fine lager.

Good Luck
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Post Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:41 am

Re: Licher Bier

Duder wrote:Pretty sure I had some in Fulda around 5 years ago.

Do they serve those in stange glasses in a circular tray that holds 9 or so glasses of beer?

That often depends on the place serving it. I've had it mostly in a curved 0.3 or 0.5 L Willi Becher or mug, but it's often sold at festivals (and maybe some pubs) in the straight-sided 0.2 L Becher that looks like a stubbier Stange. Then, I've seen them served on a tray or in a metal rack that looks like a 6-pack but holds 10 glasses. I remember being able to buy an entire rack of 10 for 1 Mark, or about $2 I think.

When you were in Fulda, did you go to Kloster Kreuzberg, the monastery on top of the hill? They make a fantastic Dunkle.
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Post Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:15 am

Re: Licher Bier

Then, I've seen them served on a tray or in a metal rack that looks like a 6-pack but holds 10 glasses.


Pretty sure this is what we got. We were being "escorted" around the town by some younger adults that were the grandchildren of friends of my parents. ( Mom & Dad were there in the mid 1960's. Dad was in the Army. ) They did most of the ordering and picking local establishments to frequent. Good times.

When you were in Fulda, did you go to Kloster Kreuzberg, the monastery on top of the hill?


YES!! Beautiful and FANTASTIC beer!!!!! :D Really, some of the best beer I have ever had.

Good Luck.
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Post Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:23 pm

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Duder wrote:YES!! Beautiful and FANTASTIC beer!!!!! :D Really, some of the best beer I have ever had.

Same here!
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Post Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:37 pm

Re: Licher Bier

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Licher is imported to the US via Bitburger (http://www.bitburger-braugruppe.de/inte ... ds/licher/) I could be totally wrong, but as I'm able to get Bitburger here, I'm thinking Licher could technically find its way here, too.

I was an exchange student to Lich, Germany, the town that's home to the Licher factory. Let me just say... amazing beer, and plenty of good times were had. =D

If you ever have a chance to be in or around GieBen, make sure to stop by for the factory tour, which concludes with an all-access pass to the Biergarten - as much BierbeiBen and Bier as you like, with the gamut of the selection on tap, for as long as you like. It was somewhere between 6-15 Euro when I went for the tour. So worth it.
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Post Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:36 am

Re: Licher Bier

My brother, who was stationed in the Butzbach/Friedburg area, has seen Licher beer in Louisville KY. He said it is hit or miss as to when his local liqour store has it.

In fact if you look at my avatar that is a keg of Licher that we got to sample at a random street festival when I went over and visited him. Beautiful country and great beer!
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Post Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:12 am

Re: Licher Bier

MNBlues,
Geat lead on picking up some beer. I travel back to Ky once per year around Thanksgiving to visit family. I go right through Louisville. Can you get a name of a beer store your brother visits? I understand the hit or miss part of the equation, but I'd certainly make the phone call and see what I could line up. Thanks, :D

Oh, and I appreciate everyones efforts at a recipe.
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