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Post Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:48 pm

Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

:D Getting ready to rack my clone to secondary tomorrow, but the samples from primary are so promising, I decided to go ahead and post the recipe. Stone uses 15L crystal, but my LHBS only had 20L. I think the difference is subtle at most. Not surprisingly, it uses a lot of hops. I know it seems like a lot of Crystal, but after "sampling" a few bottles of Ruination, I'm convinced that they use at least 10%. FWIW, I had no trouble reaching 82% attenuation



Rumination

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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14-B India Pale Ale, American IPA

Min OG: 1.056 Max OG: 1.075
Min IBU: 40 Max IBU: 72
Min Clr: 6 Max Clr: 15 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 12.00 Wort Size (Gal): 12.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 31.25
Anticipated OG: 1.070 Plato: 17.07
Anticipated SRM: 7.4
Anticipated IBU: 107.2
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate: 1.00 Gallons Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 13.50 Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.062 SG 15.27 Plato

Formulas Used
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Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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88.0 27.50 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
12.0 3.75 lbs. Crystal 20L America 1.035 20

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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4.00 oz. Magnum Pellet 12.90 96.2 60 min.
2.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 8.00 6.0 10 min.
2.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 8.00 5.0 5 min.
4.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 8.00 0.0 0 min.
2.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 8.00 0.0 Dry Hop


Yeast Edited: Originally WLP001
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White Labs WLP007 Dry English Ale Pitched at 60 degrees and fermented at 64.


Water Profile
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Profile: (IPA)
Profile known for:

Calcium(Ca): 70.0 ppm
Magnesium(Mg): 1.8 ppm
Sodium(Na): 5.8 ppm
Sulfate(SO4): 76.0 ppm
Chloride(Cl): 54.0 ppm
biCarbonate(HCO3): 41.8 ppm

pH: 0.00


Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step

Grain Lbs: 31.25
Water Qts: 41.22 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 10.31 - Before Additional Infusions

Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.32 - Before Additional Infusions

Saccharification Rest Temp : 148 Time: 90
Mash-out Rest Temp : 0 Time: 0
Sparge Temp : 0 Time: 0


Total Mash Volume Gal: 12.81 - Dough-In Infusion Only

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.

Notes: Final Gravity 1.012
Last edited by ryan6458 on Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:57 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Post Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:53 pm

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

I just tried this beer for the first time a couple of weeks ago. mmm mmm good. I might have to try this one. I would need more Centennials. That's a boat load of hops.
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Post Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:56 pm

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

What was your OG?

Edit: OK got it 1.067 - 1.055 = 1.012 82% attenuation
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Post Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:17 pm

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

bluesman wrote:What was your OG?


Anticipated OG: 1.070 Plato: 17.07


:) OG 1.070 F.G. 1.012 =7.7% ABV as listed on their site. FWIW, I took an FG reading from a bottle of Ruination to figure the OG.
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Post Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:30 pm

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ryan - did you really use 1056 or did you culture some proprietary?

shocking that you got 82% with that much crystal - not doubting you, just am amazed.
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Post Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:57 pm

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

It looks like a good way to use up my Centennial hops. What are your thoughts on using half 10 L and half 20 L.
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Post Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:58 pm

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

blatz wrote:ryan - did you really use 1056 or did you culture some proprietary?

shocking that you got 82% with that much crystal - not doubting you, just am amazed.


I used WLP001. I think I pitched around 200ml of slurry per fermenter. I was really worried about using that much crystal as well, but not only did I get the AA numbers I wanted, but also the malt profile I was shooting for. Obviously, the beer isn't done yet, but I'll post more once it is. Hopefully some pics, too. :)
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Post Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:00 am

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

Boulderbrewer wrote: What are your thoughts on using half 10 L and half 20 L.


That would probably be even better. My LHBS was out of 10L when I decided to brew this one. I wonder how much difference there is between 15L and 20L....
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Post Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:07 am

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

I have never had Ruination the recipe spounds close to Two hearted (Wichh I have had) but more of a centennial punch in the face.
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Post Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:11 am

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Unfortunately, we don't get Bell's beers in these parts. :(
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Post Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:17 am

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

ryan6458 wrote: I used WLP001. I think I pitched around 200ml of slurry per fermenter. I was really worried about using that much crystal as well, but not only did I get the AA numbers I wanted, but also the malt profile I was shooting for. Obviously, the beer isn't done yet, but I'll post more once it is. Hopefully some pics, too. :)


very interesting - how long since the slurry was harvested? now I'm starting to wonder if the IIPA I have in the fermentor right now is going to finish <1.010 - only a half pound of crystal and some sugar (can't remember exactly how much right this second). I'll shoot you an email when its done to compare notes.


ryan6458 wrote:Unfortunately, we don't get Bell's beers in these parts. :(


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with the exception of Expedition Stout, you ain't missing an-y-thing. they have decent beers, but for each style that they make, I can rattle off several that are MUCH better.

HopSlam is soooo overrated. It took me over a year to finish the 6 pack I bought last year (couldn't stomach dumping a $17 six pack). Keep in mind APA/IPA/IIPA are my favorite styles.

I would pay double the price for Ruination or Maharaja than have to settle for HS.

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Post Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:28 am

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

blatz wrote:very interesting - how long since the slurry was harvested?


I don't know to the day, but less than two weeks.
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Post Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:24 pm

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

This looks like a great recipe.

I may have to give it a try just based on the thread title.... :cheers: It's catchy, I like it!
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Post Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:59 pm

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

"OG 1.070 F.G. 1.012 =7.7% ABV as listed on their site. FWIW, I took an FG reading from a bottle of Ruination to figure the OG."

Not sure how you did this but I'll share a little bit from the brewery.....samples taken from bright tanks and even fermenters are poured back and forth into two different cups to completely degass the beer and get a credible FG reading. Toss them back and forth vigorously so they foam up a lot for about two minutes straight....let it sit, then take a reading in hydrometer flask.

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Post Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:54 pm

Re: Stone Ruination Cloning made very simple.

Beerfan wrote:This looks like a great recipe.

I may have to give it a try just based on the thread title.... :cheers: It's catchy, I like it!


+1 :lol: and I wanted to get in on page one, before it goes to a "simple" 26 pages!

Tho, I am going to wait on the 2009 Centennial Crop! :cheers:
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