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Post Tue May 18, 2010 8:03 pm

BlueBerry Beer Recipe

Trying to put together a blueberry ale recipe...

What do you think the IBU's should be. I am going with high, i am at right now IBU's at 41.. i know the blueberries are tart and sweet... What do you gentleman think..


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Post Wed May 19, 2010 3:59 am

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You called us gentlemen :shock: Really need to throw a recipe at us and how do you plan on using the blueberry's
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Post Wed May 19, 2010 5:57 am

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

I've only ever done fruit in American Wheat beers, which are quite low on the IBU scale (~10-20). I think the bitterness is going to clash with the fruit character, especially something as mild as blueberries. You won't get much sweetness from them since the fruit will be fermented, but they do contribute some flavor and color as well as a mild acidity. It all depends on whether you want to drink a beer that highlights the blueberries or not. If its the former, I suggest a clean fermenting ale yeast and no late hop additions.

What form of the fruit will you be using? Because they are so mild you might consider adding a very small amount of blueberry extract at packaging (or serving) to get some blueberry aroma. I think I added 1/2 oz to 5 gallons in addition to a can of Oregon blueberry puree. It came out with a good aroma and fortunately you could not taste the blueberry extract over the puree, but as I recall it could have used some more acidity.
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Post Wed May 19, 2010 6:23 am

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

Nyakavt is right, what you'll get will depend on the form of the blueberries you put in. If you use fresh or frozen fruit, you'll get a lot of tart and a lot of color, but only mild flavor and aroma. You certainly will not get sweetness - the yeast will turn any sugar into alcohol. When I used fresh fruit in beer or wine, I'm generally skirting the edge of what I can stand for maximum acid, and sometimes it still doesn't give me enough flavor. If you use canned fruit or puree, you'll get more flavor for the acid.

Extract will give you flavor and aroma with no added tartness, but to me it just doesn't taste right. YMMV.

I'd also agree with Nyakavt to keep the IBUs restrained.
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Post Wed May 19, 2010 9:37 am

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

The type of beer you put the blueberries in makes a big difference. You need LOW hop character because blueberry flavor is delicate and will be easily masked by anything. A blueberry IPA will fail.

Keep the IBU's in the 20-25 range. I have brewed several blueberry beers. My Porter is the best and it took 6 lbs frozen blueberries for 5 gallons. You get a nice flavor and slight aroma - no tartness in the porter. But you will get tartness in a cleaner beer - a blueberry cream ale for instance - especially if you use fresh berries (always freeze the berries and smash them as they thaw before you use them)

And I agree that blueberries will not give you sweetness at all.
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Post Wed May 19, 2010 1:08 pm

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

My thought


9# 2 -row
1# german vienna
8 oz carapils
8 oz carahell

Hops to choose form
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Saaz
Perle
columbus
east keny golding
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yeast
whitbread ale

I am going to use fresh berries.. I am a chef so they are free.. I will make a puree and freeze it. I am going on about 2#8oz to 3# puree..

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I've made a blueberryk wheat and a blueberry porter. I used 1 lb./gal. of fresh blueberries, frozen then thawed. Both were on the low end of the IBU scale for style. Blueberries are very subtle and you don't want a lot of other stuff competing with them.
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Your grain bill looks decent, though if it was me I'd think about using less and keeping the ABV down. Perle might be a good choice for your hops. A slight mintiness might go well with the blueberries. But then again, a slight citrussy flavor from Cascades would also go well. Just don't over do it.
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Post Wed May 19, 2010 2:19 pm

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

Denny wrote:I've made a blueberryk wheat and a blueberry porter. I used 1 lb./gal. of fresh blueberries, frozen then thawed. Both were on the low end of the IBU scale for style. Blueberries are very subtle and you don't want a lot of other stuff competing with them.



denny... the pound/gallon didnt make it to tart.. i made a raspberry wheat and used 30 oz of fresh raspberry in the boil last ten minutes and it came out. tart as a mother...

so u r saying jusy add the blueberries or the puree to the fermenter

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Post Wed May 19, 2010 3:00 pm

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

Hops to choose form
cascade
Saaz
Perle
columbus
east keny golding
magnum



I use Perle in my Blueberry Porter and it comes out really nice.
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Post Wed May 19, 2010 10:17 pm

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

Denny, would you care to post a link to that Blueberry recipe of yours? Your recipes are right-on!
On topic- I would lean towards a low hop american wheat and try to use wild frozen blueberries.

until the next beer, :cheers:

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Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

BrewChump wrote:denny... the pound/gallon didnt make it to tart.. i made a raspberry wheat and used 30 oz of fresh raspberry in the boil last ten minutes and it came out. tart as a mother...

so u r saying jusy add the blueberries or the puree to the fermenter

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Big difference between blueberries and raspberries. Not tart at all. I added them to a secondary fermenter and racked the beer on top. By freezing and thawing them, you get a head start on breaking down the cell walls.
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Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

Thad Eggen wrote:Denny, would you care to post a link to that Blueberry recipe of yours? Your recipes are right-on!
On topic- I would lean towards a low hop american wheat and try to use wild frozen blueberries.

until the next beer, :cheers:

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The blueberry wheat was done with an extract kit. I'll have to see if I can find the blueberry porter recipe. It may have been destroyed when my garage flooded a few years back.
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Post Fri May 21, 2010 11:46 am

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

Here's my Blueberry Porter Recipe:
This version uses Fuggles, but I have also used Perle as the bittering hop. I have brewed this 3-4 times and it's my wife's favorite beer of mine.

Sycamore Blueberry Porter:

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.15 gal
Boil Size: 7.13 gal
Boil Time: 60 min


Ingredients
GRAIN

10.75 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 79.98 %
1.00 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 7.30 %
0.88 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 7.22 %
0.81 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 6.64 %
0.25 lb Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 2.05 %
HOPS
1.25 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 20.0 IBU
0.25 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (15 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
0.25 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (5 min) Hops 0.8 IBU
0.25 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (0 min) Hops
OTHER
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
5.33 oz Malto-Dextrine (Boil 20.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Whitbread Ale (Wyeast Labs #1099) [Starter 750 ml] [Cultured] Yeast-Ale
(Fermented @ 66º F))
6 lbs Frozen Blueberries (mashed as they thaw). Add to secondary for 10 days.

Beer Profile
Original Gravity: 1.065 SG
Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Alcohol by Vol: 6.15 %
Bitterness: 22.8 IBU
Calories: 279 cal/pint
Est Color: 34.3 SRM

Mash Profile
Single Infusion, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 13.69 lb
Sparge Water: 4.88 gal
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F
60 min Mash In
Add 14.61 qt of water at 164.8 F to Mash at 153.0 F
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Post Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:36 am

Re: BlueBerry Beer Recipe

Jumping in late, I know, but brrman how do you not get wild yeast and/or bacteria introduced into the secondary used mashed frozen-then-thawed berries? I'd be leery of heating them and gelatinizing the pectin but more leery of spoiling a batch.

Also, how does aging affect the flavors? I'm thinking of brewing this as a gift for my dad but don't know how quickly he'll go through it.
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