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Jamisonia

Post Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:15 pm

Too much Crystal Malt for an APA?

I was at my LHBS and bought 10lbs on 2-row and a 1lb of Crystal 20L for an APA, I had only planned to use 0.5 lb for the APA and save the rest, but the guy threw it all into one bag together, and now its thoroughly mixed. So will a full 1lb be too much for this style, or has it become an Amber Ale?
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Post Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:23 pm

I've used 1# of crystal malt in an APA and it turned out fine. I usually like my APAs to finish around 1.010-1.012. You should be able to get your beer to finish in that range. It's definitely not going to be an amber.
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Post Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:36 pm

Only potential problem I see is that crystaL 20L is so sweet tasting that it may end up being too sweet. I hope you plan to use a version of the Chico strain of yeast and you mash low 8)
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Post Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:11 pm

bo_gator wrote:Only potential problem I see is that crystaL 20L is so sweet tasting that it may end up being too sweet.


I haven't found Crystal 20L to be that sweet. :?
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Post Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:57 pm

That will be just fine. I may mash at a lower temp to compensate for the crystal, but other than that, that is well within reason.
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marnold

Post Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:49 am

I'd say it's not a problem at all.

For example, the Sierra Nevada clone recipe that floats around the forum has 12# 2-row and almost 2# Crystal 60.

I'm always changing my "house" APA, but right now it has 12# 2-row and 1.75# Crystal 20.

What you have should be great... but if you don't love it, adjust it the grain bill a little for the next time.
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Post Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:38 am

ryan6458 wrote:
bo_gator wrote:Only potential problem I see is that crystaL 20L is so sweet tasting that it may end up being too sweet.


I haven't found Crystal 20L to be that sweet. :?


Me either. I think it's on the lighter side of sweet. I think that 40 & 60 give you more of the sweetness. And you wil most definitely not have an amber with 1 lb. of 20. I personaly use either crystal 20 or honey malt in my house pale ale.
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Post Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:42 am

Generally, I don't think any specialty grain addition is considered "alot" until it exceeds 10% of the grain bill. You're only at 9% so RDWHAHB :lol:
Edit: I take that back, roasted barley becomes "alot" at somewhat less than 10%, but still, Crystal 10L is not the same as roasted barley. :wink:
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Post Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:01 pm

marnold wrote:For example, the Sierra Nevada clone recipe that floats around the forum has 12# 2-row and almost 2# Crystal 60.


Unless you hop that up quite a bit, it's too much C-60 IMO.

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marnold

Post Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:20 pm

Geronimo wrote:Unless you hop that up quite a bit, it's too much C-60 IMO.


There was a lot of discussion in the original Beerfan SNPA recipe thread about that. I had a Sierra Nevada on tap the other night and was thinking about how I'm always surprised how dark it is.

Like I said, I use C-20 and less of it in my own APA.

Geronimo wrote:I make a rye pale ale with .75 lbs of Caramunich that's mighty tasty.


That's a recipe I'd love to see. I've brewed Denny's Rye IPA a couple of times (including the other day)... a rye pale ale sounds interesting.
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Jamisonia

Post Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:37 pm

Well I brewed it up today. Mashed a little lower than planned about 147 for 75 minutes. We'll see how it turns out.
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Post Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:48 pm

marnold wrote:
Geronimo wrote:Unless you hop that up quite a bit, it's too much C-60 IMO.


There was a lot of discussion in the original Beerfan SNPA recipe thread about that. I had a Sierra Nevada on tap the other night and was thinking about how I'm always surprised how dark it is.


The Beerfan recipe only uses a pound in a 6.5 gallon batch.
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Post Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:32 am

ryan6458 wrote:The Beerfan recipe only uses a pound in a 6.5 gallon batch.


You're absolutely right!

For some reason my Promash recipe file calls for 1.7#.

Which makes me wonder... how have I been brewing it???

This is timely: I'm planning on making a batch of it this week.
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Post Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:47 am

I find 1 lb to be about right for American Ales, at the hop levels I like (about .7 IBUS:GUs)

This means that for a light APA, it approaches 10%, and for a big IPA, it is more like 5-6%. It's simple but it works for me.
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Post Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:37 am

marnold wrote:
ryan6458 wrote:The Beerfan recipe only uses a pound in a 6.5 gallon batch.


You're absolutely right!

For some reason my Promash recipe file calls for 1.7#.


I think it has been edited after some discussion. I do remember the 1.7# figure being thrown around on that thread at some point.
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