Long story short I bought a Jaded cyclone cfc a while ago and it didn't work with my setup. It really needs to be recirculated through. I had trouble getting a gravity siphon started through it. There were a bunch of air pockets so I doubt the wort was fully in contact with cooling. I guess I thought I would have a pump setup by now. Anyone interested in this type of chiller? It is an awesome looking piece but it isn't doing much sitting in my basement.